two die...
ok... so two people die. Does she mean that "they" don't target extras, but she does? OR is she saying 'they' do target main characters AND she does also? hmm... (find and read comments on JKR's interview with 'Richard and Judy'.
What I have been wondering today though, which goes back along with the whole Hagrid thing.. (we'll have to discuss Minerva later)... just HOW did Hagrid know where to go to get Harry? Sure he SAYS Dumbledore told him. (which dumbledore?)... (hmmm) BUT.. what I want to understand is that Fidelius Charm.
In Bk 5, the Fidelius is on a PLACE, as in Grimmauld Place. If it can be on a THING.... I would have to wonder why D'dore didn't make himself secret keeper for that silly rock in Bk 1. ??? Ok, it could be legilimentized (is that a word?) but if that is the case, how in the heck does Grimmauld Place stay secret?
Now, I have to presume that the Fidelius in Bk1 was on James and Lily as PEOPLE.. not the place of their home in Godric's Hollow. Peter was the secret-keeper. Peter didn't die. They THOUGHT Sirius was the secret-keeper, yet they didn't have to talk to him to find out where the house was. #1, they COULDN'T have asked him, as he COULDN'T have told. #2, they would have found out that he wasn't the secret-keeper.
Scarier yet, is the idea that Peter somehow had told some of the OotP. I guess he could have written a letter to them or something, but if he told them, then they (at LEAST Hagrid and Albus) should have known that Sirius was innocent. If they knew, and left him in jail all that time... that is just criminal. Don't talk to me about the greater good.
I guess, that Hagrid could have known that Peter was guilty. I still support the idea that he is evil. He found Sirius and borrowed his motorcycle, before Sirius went after Peter. Wouldn't Sirius have told him that Peter betrayed the Potters??? There is something missing in this whole scene.
Maybe this is one of the things JK says she put in the early books that now she has to tie up in book 7. But she needs to talk fast, imo.
I think that she will say the Fidelius was on James and Lily as PEOPLE. The people died, so the charm broke.
However, now I wonder. The point was to protect the baby, shouldn't it have been??? The baby was the point of the prophecy. Or were they hiding because Voldy was after them.. but why wouldn't the charm have been cast to include Harry as well???
And if THAT'S the case, then the charm SHOULDN'T have broken. Peter had to have told. Which makes SOMEONE an accomplice.
...... Sev?? I am sure he had no problem keeping Sirius in jail. BUT. Even if Sev knew from being a DE and he knew that Peter told, Sev COULDN'T have told Albus where the place was. Just as... Albus shouldn't have been able to tell Hagrid where it was either.
I read an editorial today at Mugglenet.. that first suggested Albus performed the Charm. Then the author goes on to repudiate that idea.
IF Albus knew Peter was the secret-keeper, that makes him 100 percent culpable for Sirius' incarceration. If Albus didn't perform the Charm.. how did he know where to find Harry? What dark Blood magic did he have to perform to find him and hence, keep him safe at his Aunt's???
More later..
Any thoughts?? Tell me your opinion on the Fidelius and just how is it that Dumbledore (Al or Abe) could tell him where to go.
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hmm... ok, Race, here we go. I know we have discussed this, but not here.
Peter knew the secret. Only those he told it to knew it. I like the charmed paper with the info, as it worked in OotP. That is assuming. We do have to assume though.
When did Hagrid see Sirius? If Hagrid thought Sirius was the secret-keeper, why didn't he do something then? Why didn't Dumbledore?
Yes, I guess it could be a hole in her plot.
How is it Hagrid was able to get there before the Aurors started swarming the place?
Who told them how to get there?
Again, I guess that charmed paper going around.. but that should have been suspicious, because what is the point of a Secret-Keeper, if the info is just out and available to be read by half the Ministry?
Lots of loop holes.
Quote from Rowling's site:
"The only people who ever knew their (the Potter's)precise location were those whom Wormtail had told directly, but none of them would have been able to pass on the information."
He probably told Sirius.. since Sirius knew for sure he was the Secret-Keeper. SO... MAYbe... Sirius went and got Harry, gave him and the bike to Hagrid, and then went on to confront Peter.??
Hagrid should not have been able to get Harry. The Aurors, Muggles, nor anyone else, should have been able to go there.
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